diff --git a/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin-ext/gha.ptl b/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin-ext/gha.ptl
index 62ce15b0b..4e8feec3f 100644
--- a/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin-ext/gha.ptl
+++ b/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin-ext/gha.ptl
@@ -8,7 +8,7 @@ glyph-module
 glyph-block Letter-Latin-Gha : begin
 	glyph-block-import CommonShapes
 	glyph-block-import Common-Derivatives
-	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : SerifFrame RightwardTailedBar
+	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : RightwardTailedBar
 	glyph-block-import Letter-Latin-Lower-Q : RDiagTailedBar
 	glyph-block-import Mark-Adjustment : LeaningAnchor
 
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ glyph-block Letter-Latin-Gha : begin
 			g4   (df.rightSB - O - [HSwToV df.mvs]) top [widths 0 df.mvs]
 
 		if slab : begin
-			local sf : SerifFrame.fromDf df top bot
-			include sf.rb.full
+			include : HSerif.rb (df.rightSB - O - [HSwToV : 0.5 * df.mvs]) bot Jut
+			include : HSerif.lb (df.rightSB - O - [HSwToV : 0.5 * df.mvs]) bot MidJutSide
 
 	define GhaConfig : object
 		straightSerifless       { TERMINAL-NORMAL false }
diff --git a/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin/c.ptl b/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin/c.ptl
index d596a1e1d..7472bae3d 100644
--- a/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin/c.ptl
+++ b/packages/font-glyphs/src/letter/latin/c.ptl
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ glyph-block Letter-Latin-C : begin
 	glyph-block-import Common-Derivatives
 	glyph-block-import Mark-Adjustment : ExtendAboveBaseAnchors ExtendBelowBaseAnchors LeaningAnchor
 	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared : CreateAccentedComposition CreateDependentComposite CreateTurnedLetter
-	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : SerifFrame CurlyTail SerifedArcStart SerifedArcEnd
+	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : CurlyTail SerifedArcStart SerifedArcEnd
 	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : InwardSlabArcStart InwardSlabArcEnd
 	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : ArcStartSerif ArcEndSerif
 	glyph-block-import Letter-Shared-Shapes : LetterBarOverlay PalatalHook RetroflexHook TopHook
@@ -286,7 +286,9 @@ glyph-block Letter-Latin-C : begin
 			local lf : CLetterForm [DivFrame 1] sty styBot CAP 0
 			include : union [lf.descBase] [lf.topSerif]
 			include : VBar.r RightSB Descender [ArcStartSerifDepth Hook] [ArcStartSerifWidth Stroke]
-			if styBot : let [sf : SerifFrame.fromDf [DivFrame 1] CAP Descender] : include sf.rb.full
+			if styBot : begin
+				include : HSerif.rb (RightSB - [HSwToV : 0.5 * [ArcStartSerifWidth Stroke]]) Descender Jut
+				include : HSerif.lb (RightSB - [HSwToV : 0.5 * [ArcStartSerifWidth Stroke]]) Descender MidJutSide
 
 	select-variant 'C' 'C'
 	link-reduced-variant 'C/sansSerif' 'C' MathSansSerif
diff --git a/packages/font-glyphs/src/number/4.ptl b/packages/font-glyphs/src/number/4.ptl
index eaa560ead..9d1061b61 100644
--- a/packages/font-glyphs/src/number/4.ptl
+++ b/packages/font-glyphs/src/number/4.ptl
@@ -37,7 +37,8 @@ glyph-block Digits-Four : begin
 			include : HBar.t xVertBar (xVertBar + bbd) CAP sw
 			include : HBar.b xVertBar (xVertBar + bbd) 0 sw
 		if (!bbd && slab) : begin
-			include : HSerif.mb (xVertBar - [HSwToV HalfStroke]) 0 Jut
+			include : HSerif.rb (xVertBar - [HSwToV HalfStroke]) 0 Jut
+			include : HSerif.lb (xVertBar - [HSwToV HalfStroke]) 0 MidJutSide
 
 	define [FourClosedShape top crossing slab] : begin
 		return : FourStdShape top false crossing (slab -- slab)
@@ -56,7 +57,8 @@ glyph-block Digits-Four : begin
 		include : VBar.r xVertBar 0 [mix (yBar - Stroke) top 0.75]
 		include : VBar.l SB yBar top
 		if slab : begin
-			include : HSerif.mb (xVertBar - [HSwToV HalfStroke]) 0 Jut
+			include : HSerif.rb (xVertBar - [HSwToV HalfStroke]) 0 Jut
+			include : HSerif.lb (xVertBar - [HSwToV HalfStroke]) 0 MidJutSide
 
 	define FourConfig : SuffixCfg.weave
 		object # body